| name | nemo-mbridge-perf-activation-recompute |
| description | Validate and use selective and full activation recompute in Megatron Bridge to reduce GPU memory usage at the cost of extra compute. |
| license | Apache-2.0 |
| when_to_use | Reducing GPU memory via activation recompute, or investigating a commit that changed recompute settings and caused OOM or a regression; 'recompute_granularity', 'recompute_num_layers', 'recompute_modules', 'recompute_method', 'selective recompute', 'full recompute', 'activation memory OOM'. |
Activation Recompute
Stable docs: @docs/training/activation-recomputation.md
Card: @skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-activation-recompute/card.yaml
Answer Checklist
For OOM or CUDA graph questions, lead with this exact sequence:
- First try
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True; many
borderline failures are allocator fragmentation, not activation capacity.
- Prefer selective recompute before full-layer recompute:
recompute_granularity="selective" with recompute_modules=["core_attn"].
- If still borderline, optionally add
"layernorm"; use "mlp" only as a
last resort because it has a large compute cost on wide dense FFNs.
- Use full-layer recompute only after selective recompute fails to fit, and
always name the required fields:
recompute_granularity="full",
recompute_method, and recompute_num_layers.
- If FP8 or TE-scoped CUDA graphs are enabled, call out the assertion risk:
full-layer recompute is incompatible with TE scopes such as
attn, mlp,
and moe_router. Valid fixes are selective recompute, cuda_graph_impl="none",
or cuda_graph_impl="local" with cuda_graph_scope="full_iteration".
What It Is
Activation recompute trades GPU compute for memory by discarding intermediate
activations during the forward pass and recomputing them during backward.
Megatron Bridge supports two granularities:
| Granularity | What you specify | What gets recomputed | Memory savings | Compute cost |
|---|
selective | recompute_modules list (e.g. core_attn, mlp) | specific submodules within each layer | moderate (module-dependent) | low to high |
full | recompute_num_layers + recompute_method | entire transformer layers (N layers) | strongest | highest |
Note: MCore names these "selective" (submodule-level) vs "full" (layer-level).
"Full" means recomputing full layers, not the full model — you still choose
how many layers via recompute_num_layers.
Quick Decision
- Set
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True first — most
borderline OOMs are caused by memory fragmentation, not capacity. This
fixes it at zero cost. See @skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-memory-tuning/SKILL.md.
- Start with
recompute_granularity=selective, recompute_modules=[core_attn]
(often already the default in recipes).
- Add
layernorm to recompute modules — nearly free compute-wise but saves
negligible memory. Only helps in extremely borderline cases.
- Add
mlp as a last resort — saves ~3 GB but costs ~16% GPU utilization on
large dense models (Llama3 70B).
- Use
recompute_granularity=full only when selective recompute still does
not fit.
CPU offloading (cpu_offloading=True) is an alternative that avoids recompute
cost entirely, but it is incompatible with PP > 1.
Enablement
Selective recompute
cfg.model.recompute_granularity = "selective"
cfg.model.recompute_modules = ["core_attn"]
Full-layer recompute
cfg.model.recompute_granularity = "full"
cfg.model.recompute_method = "uniform"
cfg.model.recompute_num_layers = 4
Available recompute_modules
| Module | What it recomputes | Compute cost | Memory savings |
|---|
core_attn | attention softmax/dropout/QKV dot product | low (Flash Attention already recomputes internally) | moderate |
layernorm | layer normalization | negligible (~0%) | negligible |
mlp | full FFN block | high (~16% on Llama3 70B, hidden=28672) | ~3 GB |
moe | MoE expert dispatch | varies | varies |
moe_act | MoE activation functions | low | small |
shared_experts | shared expert layers | moderate | moderate |
mla_up_proj | Multi-Latent Attention up projection | moderate | moderate |
Performance harness CLI
python scripts/performance/run_performance_workload.py \
--recompute_granularity selective \
--recompute_modules core_attn layernorm \
...
Compatibility and Constraints
recompute_granularity=selective requires a non-empty recompute_modules list
recompute_granularity=full requires recompute_method and recompute_num_layers
- Layer-level recompute (
recompute_granularity="full" +
recompute_num_layers) is incompatible with TE-scoped CUDA graphs.
MCore calls this "full" granularity — the name refers to recomputing
full transformer layers, not the full model. Even though you're selecting
how many layers to recompute, MCore treats it differently from submodule
recompute. Any TE-scoped scope (attn, mlp, moe_router, etc.) will
assert. This commonly hits FP8 configs that enable TE-scoped graphs by
default (e.g. LLAMA3_70B_SFT_CONFIG_H100_FP8_CS_V1 sets
cuda_graph_impl="transformer_engine", cuda_graph_scope="mlp"). Options:
- use submodule recompute (
recompute_granularity="selective" +
recompute_modules) — compatible with TE-scoped graphs
- disable CUDA graphs (
cuda_graph_impl="none") and use layer-level recompute
- switch to
cuda_graph_impl="local", cuda_graph_scope="full_iteration"
distribute_saved_activations=True cannot be combined with sequence_parallel=True
- Combining
mlp + core_attn recompute is slightly worse than mlp alone
due to double recompute overhead
Measured Results
Llama3 70B SFT on 32x H100 80GB, FP8 (Current Scaling):
- Baseline: TP=4, PP=4, VPP=5, DP=2, MBS=1, GBS=32, seq_len=4096
- Golden GPU utilization: 709.93 TFLOP/s/GPU
- Regression threshold: 5%
| Experiment | recompute_modules | TFLOP/s/GPU | vs Golden | Peak Mem (GB) | Result |
|---|
| Baseline | [core_attn] | ~704 | -0.8% | 58.8 (OOM rank0) | OOM |
| Exp 1 | [mlp] | 593.6 | -16.4% | 55.6 | Perf regression |
| Exp 2 | [mlp, core_attn] | 586.8 | -17.3% | 55.6 | Perf regression |
| Exp 3 | [core_attn, layernorm] | ~702 | -1.1% | 59.6 (OOM rank0) | OOM |
Key takeaways:
layernorm recompute is nearly free compute-wise but saves negligible memory
mlp recompute saves ~3 GB peak but costs ~16% because the Llama3 70B FFN
(hidden=28672) is expensive to recompute
- Combining
mlp + core_attn is slightly worse than mlp alone
- For this workload, the actual OOM fix was
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
(memory fragmentation, not capacity). See @skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-memory-tuning/SKILL.md.
Code Anchors
Recompute modules enum and selective checkpoint logic
Recompute config validation
Llama3 recipe defaults
# Memory saving (recompute & offloading)
cfg.model.recompute_granularity = None
cfg.model.recompute_modules = None
cfg.model.fine_grained_activation_offloading = False
cfg.model.offload_modules = None
Full recompute + CUDA graph assertion (MCore)
if self.recompute_granularity:
if self.recompute_granularity != "selective":
assert self.cuda_graph_scope == [
CudaGraphScope.full_iteration
], "full recompute is only supported with full iteration CUDA graph."
CPU offloading PP incompatibility (MCore)
if self.cpu_offloading and self.pipeline_model_parallel_size > 1:
raise ValueError(
"Currently there is no support for Pipeline parallelism with CPU offloading"
)
Failure Diagnosis
| Symptom | Cause | Confirm | Fix |
|---|
| >15% GPU utilization drop | mlp recompute on large FFN | check recompute_modules includes mlp | check expandable_segments:True is set; consider reducing MBS |
| Still OOM after adding layernorm | layernorm activations are too small | compare peak memory before/after | add mlp recompute or check expandable_segments:True |
AssertionError: full recompute is only supported with full iteration CUDA graph | layer-level recompute (recompute_granularity=full + recompute_num_layers) with TE-scoped graphs. FP8 CS configs default to cuda_graph_impl=transformer_engine, scope=mlp. | check cuda_graph_impl and cuda_graph_scope | use submodule recompute (selective + recompute_modules), or cuda_graph_impl=none, or local + full_iteration |
| ValueError: PP + CPU offloading | cpu_offloading=True with pipeline_model_parallel_size > 1 | check PP config | disable CPU offloading or set PP=1 |
| mlp+core_attn worse than mlp alone | double recompute overhead | compare Exp 1 vs Exp 2 | use mlp alone |
Known Limitations
- Per-module memory savings vary significantly by model architecture and hidden
dimension
- No automatic module selection — users must choose which modules to recompute
layernorm recompute is almost never worth it as a standalone fix
- CPU offloading (the zero-compute-cost alternative) is blocked when PP > 1
Verification
uv run python -m pytest \
tests/unit_tests/training/test_config.py -k "recompute" -q
Success criteria:
- Unit tests pass for recompute config validation
- No assertion errors from config validation