multi-cam-editing

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multi-cam-editing

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Edit multi-camera / shared-audio sessions (podcasts, interviews, panels) inside Palmier Pro — create a multicam group first, verify sync and mic-to-person mapping, then cut angles to the speaker with wide/layout moments for overlap. Use whenever the footage has multiple cameras, multiple mics, dual-system sound, or the user mentions multicam, multi-cam, podcast edit, interview cut, camera switching, or synced audio.

Multi-Cam Editing

Core principle

Always start from a multicam group. Do not manually stack angles and hope they stay aligned — manage_multicam syncs members by audio, locks their timing, and lets change_cam switch what the viewer sees without breaking sync. Editing is deliberate: know whether cameras are speaker angles or A/B coverage, trim with soft landings at sentence ends and tighter joins mid-thought, and put picture cuts on the same seams as audio cuts (especially B-cam). For tight, rapid, or chaotic dialogue, err on the side of not cutting — messy joins hurt more than a few extra seconds.

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Workflow checklist

- [ ] 1. Inventory media — cameras, mics, who is on which file
- [ ] 2. Create multicam group (manage_multicam) — never skip this
- [ ] 3. Verify sync + mic ↔ person mapping
- [ ] 4. Agree trim goals with the user (format-specific)
- [ ] 5. Trim / tighten (get_transcript → remove_words / remove_silence)
- [ ] 6. Program the cut (change_cam — speaker cams + wide/layout)
- [ ] 7. Review with get_multicam + inspect_timeline

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Step 1: Inventory the session

get_media()
get_timeline()

Classify every source before grouping:

Role	What it is	kind in manage_multicam
Close / single	One person framed	angle (or both if that file's audio is their mic)
Master wide	Whole set / all participants in frame	angle (label it wide)
Dedicated mic	Lav, recorder, mix bus with no useful picture	mic
Cam + own audio	Remote podcast / Zoom-style per-person file	both

Decide what the cameras represent — this drives the whole program cut:

Setup	Cameras mean	Cut strategy
Speaker cams	Each angle is a different person (host / guest / panel)	Default to whoever is talking; wide/layout for overlap
A-cam / B-cam	Same subject or scene, different angles (hero + alternate)	Stay on A-cam most of the time; use B-cam sparingly where it earns its keep (reaction, emphasis, cover a jump, visual variety on a long hold)

Label angles for the setup you actually have (host/guest/wide, or a-cam/b-cam). Prefer short, stable labels over filenames.

Use inspect_media (overview + a short dialogue window) when filenames don't make roles obvious.

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Step 2: Always create the multicam group first

manage_multicam({
  create: {
    name: "Session",
    master: "host-mic",          // or best all-speakers source — see below
    members: [
      { mediaRef: WIDE_ID,  kind: "angle", angleLabel: "wide" },
      { mediaRef: HOST_ID,  kind: "angle", angleLabel: "host" },
      { mediaRef: GUEST_ID, kind: "angle", angleLabel: "guest" },
      { mediaRef: MIC_ID,   kind: "mic",   angleLabel: "host-mic" },
    ]
  }
})

Member-kind rules (from the tool — follow exactly):

• Separate cameras + mics → angle + mic
• One file per participant with its own audio (remote podcast) → both
• Cameras + one master mic → angles + one mic
• Always include at least one mic or both. Pure angle audio is scratch for sync only and never plays — an all-angle group is silent. If camera sound is program audio, mark those members both, not angle.

Master: the member whose clock defines group time and whose audio feeds transcript/waveforms. Default is the first mic/both. When every member is both, pass master explicitly — pick the source that hears every speaker best (usually the host).

Create places stamped program clips on the timeline (one program video track + one audio track per mic). Read the response: every member should report a confident offsetSeconds. Weak correlation → pin offsetSeconds (slate/clap) and recreate. sync_clips is refused on multicam clips (already aligned) — only use it on plain clips before grouping. Do not angle-cut on a weak sync.

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Step 3: Verify sync and audio ↔ person

get_multicam({ groupId: GROUP_ID })
get_transcript({ clipId: MULTICAM_CLIP_ID, granularity: "segments" })
inspect_timeline({ startFrame: SAMPLE_A, endFrame: SAMPLE_B, maxFrames: 4 })

Check before any creative cutting:

1. Sync — clap/slate/first overlapping speech lands together across angles (spot-check 2–3 moments with inspect_timeline / short listens).
2. Mic ↔ person — when person A talks, the waveform/transcript energy matches A's angle; no swapped lavs or host/guest flip.
3. Master choice — if a guest mic is clearer for the whole conversation, recreate with that as master rather than living with a bad transcript source.

If audio is wrong for a person, fix membership/kinds/master and recreate the group. Do not "fix it in the cut."

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Step 4: Agree what to trim (work with the user)

Do not silently gut the recording. Propose a trim plan from the transcript, then confirm:

Format	Usually remove	Usually keep
User discovery / interview	Interviewer's questions (when the deliverable is guest-only answers); pre-roll setup; "can you hear me"; retakes of the same answer	Guest answers in full; natural pauses that carry meaning; emotional beats
Podcast / panel	Beginning slate, tech checks, "we're recording," ending "ok that's a wrap," long off-topic tangents the hosts already flagged	Banter that defines the show; overlapping laughs; cold open if one exists
Either	Long silences, repeated false starts, obvious "start over" takes	Rapid back-and-forth, crosstalk, punchlines that need the setup

Ask when ambiguous: guest-only answers vs full conversation, how aggressive on filler, whether a tangent stays.

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Step 5: Trim deliberately

get_transcript()                    // words for cutting; segments first if the piece is long
remove_words({
  words: [ /* indices / [start, end] spans from the plan */ ],
  cutAggressiveness: "balanced"     // override per pass — see below
})

Cut aggressiveness by where the seam lands:

Seam type	Aggressiveness	Why
End of a sentence / thought	loose (or leave ~4–5 frames of pad after the last kept word)	The final word needs a beat to land — cutting flush makes endings feel chopped
Between words / mid-sentence (filler, false start, retake splice)	tight	Aggressive joins play clean inside a continuing thought
Default / mixed pass	balanced	When a batch spans both kinds of seams

Prefer splitting into two remove_words passes when the plan mixes end-of-sentence drops and mid-sentence cleanup: tight pass for interior junk first, then a looser pass (or frame pad) for sentence-final trims. If the tool only leaves silence via cutAggressiveness, use loose at sentence ends rather than tight.

How to cut:

• Read the transcript as prose. Mark everything to remove, then cut in as few remove_words passes as possible (indices shift after each call — re-read between passes).
• Prefer word-based cuts over frame ripples. Use remove_silence only for true dead air, not as a substitute for editorial judgment.
• Tight / rapid / chaotic segments — leave them alone. Fast exchanges, piled interruptions, and laughter rarely splice cleanly. If a cut would land mid-breath or mid-overlap, keep the span.
• After each meaningful pass, spot-check joins (get_transcript around the seam + a short inspect_timeline). Undo if a join sounds wrong, then retry with a wider keep.

Captions block ripple: if a caption track exists, manage_tracks({ remove: [{ trackId }] }) first, cut, then re-add captions. (There is no remove_tracks tool.)

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Step 6: Program the camera cut

Angle cuts live inside the group via change_cam — never split/stack the multicam carrier by hand to switch cameras.

get_multicam({ groupId: GROUP_ID })   // angle labels + current program

change_cam({
  groupId: GROUP_ID,                 // or clipId of any group clip
  entries: [
    { range: [0, 1800], angle: "host" },
    { range: [1800, 4200], angle: "guest" },
    { range: [4200, 5100], angle: "wide" },          // overlap / laugh
    // no wide? layout + angles in SLOT ORDER (first = program slot):
    { range: [5100, 6000], layout: "side_by_side",
      angles: ["host", "guest"] }
  ]
})

Layouts use angles: [...] (slot order), not { slot, angle } objects. A later full-frame { range, angle } over the same span clears a layout. Extra angles beyond the layout's slots become synced overlay clips (ordinary group clips — restyle/remove normally).

Cutting rules of thumb

Speaker-cam setup (each angle = a person):

1. Default: show whoever is talking — cut to their close on (or just before) their first word; hold through their turn.
2. Master wide when energy is shared — overlapping speech, group laughter, reactions, pauses where faces matter more than one mouth. If a wide exists, prefer it here.
3. No wide? Simulate with layouts — two people → side_by_side / top_bottom; three → three_up; four → grid_2x2; one primary + others → main_sidebar or pip_* (main = speaker, inset = reactor).
4. Stay flexible — a short reaction on the listener is fine after a strong line; don't ping-pong every clause.

A-cam / B-cam setup (same scene, alternate angles — not different speakers):

1. A-cam is the spine — most of the program stays on A-cam.
2. B-cam is seasoning — use it briefly where it helps: cover a jump cut, a reaction beat, emphasis, or relief on a long A-cam hold. Do not flip A/B as if they were two speakers.
3. Never let a word-cut land mid B-cam. If you trimmed audio at a seam, the B-cam shot must start and/or end on that same cut (or sit entirely between cuts on unbroken audio). A B-cam hold that straddles a remove_words join looks like a glitch — especially bad on B-cam.

Align camera changes with edit seams (all setups):

• Prefer switching angles on the same frames as word/silence cuts you already made — picture cut and sound cut land together.
• Especially for B-cam (and any brief cutaway): in on a cut, out on a cut. Do not start B-cam mid-word or ride it across a splice.
• After trimming, build the change_cam program from the post-cut transcript/timeline so ranges match the kept audio.
• Batch entries — one change_cam with the full program (or large contiguous chunks). Later entries win on overlap. Re-read with get_multicam to confirm the run-length program looks right.

Layouts available to change_cam (same family as apply_layout, excluding full-frame): side_by_side, top_bottom, pip_bottom_right, pip_bottom_left, pip_top_right, pip_top_left, grid_2x2, main_sidebar, three_up.

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Step 7: Review

get_multicam({ groupId: GROUP_ID })
inspect_timeline({ startFrame: 0, endFrame: TOTAL, maxFrames: 8 })

Confirm:

• Program matches the setup: speaker-following or A-cam-heavy with sparse B-cam — not random flips
• Angle changes land on edit seams; no B-cam (or cutaway) straddling a word-cut
• Sentence endings still have a short pad (~4–5 frames / loose aggressiveness); mid-sentence joins can be tight
• Sync still holds after trims; no silent stretches from missing mic/both
• Trim plan matches what the user approved

When the cut is locked and you need plain unstamped clips: manage_multicam({ ungroup: { groupId } }) — clips stay put, stamps drop, change_cam no longer applies. (There is no bake action.)

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Common failure modes

Symptom	Cause	Fix
Group is silent	All members marked angle	Recreate with at least one mic or both
Wrong person sounds loudest / transcript follows wrong voice	Bad master or swapped mic kinds	Recreate with correct master / mic mapping
needsAttention on a member	Weak audio correlation	Pin offsetSeconds from clap/slate; widen searchWindowSeconds
Angle cut "does nothing" on timeline read	Looking at get_timeline (hides internal angles)	Use get_multicam for the program EDL
Joins sound chopped after tightening	Cut into rapid/overlap dialogue, or tight on a sentence end	Undo; restore the span; use loose / ~4–5 frame pad at sentence ends
Sentence endings feel clipped	tight aggressiveness on end-of-thought seams	Re-cut those seams with loose or leave pad after the last word
B-cam (or cutaway) glitches on a splice	Angle hold straddles a word-cut	Rebuild change_cam so B-cam in/out lands on the same frames as the audio cut
A/B footage ping-pongs like two speakers	Treated A/B as speaker cams	Keep A-cam as spine; B-cam only in short, motivated beats
Stacked unsynced cameras on the edit timeline	Skipped multicam create	Remove hand-stacked clips; manage_multicam create from media refs

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Guardrails

• Multicam group before creative cutting — sync and membership first.
• Confirm trim intent with the user when the format is ambiguous.
• Soft landings at sentence ends; aggressive only mid-thought / between words.
• Know the setup: speaker cams vs A-cam/B-cam — cut accordingly.
• Put camera changes on edit cuts; never leave a word-cut in the middle of B-cam.
• Prefer fewer, cleaner angle changes over constant switching.
• When unsure whether a cut will play clean, keep the footage.