lds-optimization

name	lds-optimization
description	Optimize LDS (Local Data Share / shared memory) access patterns in FlyDSL GPU kernels. Diagnose bank conflicts and high lgkmcnt stalls from ATT trace data, then apply swizzle or padding layouts to eliminate conflicts. Also increase the distance between LDS write and subsequent LDS read to hide LDS latency. LDS read preceded by write always requires a sync (s_waitcnt lgkmcnt or s_barrier). Use when trace analysis shows ds_read/ds_write/lgkmcnt as a bottleneck. Usage: /lds-optimization
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LDS Optimization

Diagnose and fix LDS (shared memory) performance issues in FlyDSL kernels on AMD CDNA GPUs (MI300X/MI308/MI350).

When To Use

Run /kernel-trace-analysis first. Apply this skill when the trace shows:

Signal	Threshold	Example
s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) with high stall	> 3000 cycles per instance	L605: stall=4080 s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)
ds_write / ds_read with high latency	> 500 cycles per instance	L761: stall=960 ds_write2_b32
Multiple s_barrier between ds_write and ds_read	Barrier stall > 5000	L606: stall=17024 s_barrier
Total LDS-related stall > 15% of kernel stall	Sum all lgkmcnt + ds stalls	Softmax reduce phase in PA decode

LDS Architecture on CDNA3 (gfx942)

Hardware Facts

• LDS size: 64 KB per CU (workgroup-shared)
• LDS is organized into 32 banks, each 4 bytes wide
• Bank index = (byte_address / 4) % 32
• Bank conflict: when 2+ threads in the same wavefront access different addresses in the same bank in the same cycle, accesses are serialized
• Broadcast: when 2+ threads access the same address in the same bank, hardware broadcasts (no conflict)
• LDS throughput: 128 bytes/cycle (peak, no conflicts)
• LDS latency: ~20-40 cycles (async, hidden if enough work between write and read)
• VGPR context: LDS ops use arch_vgpr (for addresses/data), not accum_vgpr. But occupancy on CDNA3 is governed by the combined 512-entry budget arch_vgpr + accum_vgpr (the two physical files share one occupancy budget — see /kernel-trace-analysis). So LDS-addressing logic that grows arch_vgpr can still cost occupancy even though it never touches the MFMA accumulators. Keep LDS-address VGPR pressure low when the kernel is near a 2-wave boundary.

LDS Architecture on CDNA4 (gfx950)

Hardware Facts

• LDS size: 160 KB per CU (2.5x larger than gfx942's 64 KB)
• LDS is organized into 64 banks, each 4 bytes wide (640 DWords per bank)
• Bank index = (byte_address / 4) % 64
• Bank conflict: same rule as gfx942 — when 2+ threads in the same wavefront access different addresses in the same bank in the same cycle, accesses are serialized
• Broadcast: same as gfx942 — when 2+ threads access the same address in the same bank, hardware broadcasts (no conflict)
• LDS throughput: 256 bytes/cycle (peak, no conflicts; 2x gfx942 due to 64 banks)
• LDS latency: ~2-64 cycles per operation depending on bank conflicts (2 cycles best case, 64 cycles worst case with all threads conflicting on one bank)
• LDS allocation granularity: 1280 bytes on 1280-byte alignment; LDS allocations do not wrap around the LDS storage
• Wavefront dispatch: reads across a 64-thread wavefront are dispatched over 4 cycles in waterfall fashion
• 32 concurrent LDS operations: hardware can concurrently execute 32 read or write instructions (each 32-bit); extended instructions (read2/write2) can be 64-bit each
• 32 integer atomic units for unordered atomic operations
• VGPR context: same as gfx942 — LDS ops use arch_vgpr (for addresses/data), but occupancy is governed by the combined 512-entry budget arch_vgpr + accum_vgpr. LDS-addressing arch_vgpr competes with MFMA accumulators for that shared budget.

Key Differences from gfx942

Aspect	gfx942 (CDNA3)	gfx950 (CDNA4)
LDS size per CU	64 KB	160 KB
Number of banks	32	64
Bank index formula	(addr/4) % 32	(addr/4) % 64
Peak throughput	128 bytes/cycle	256 bytes/cycle
LDS allocation granularity	256 bytes	1280 bytes
Max LDS per workgroup	64 KB	160 KB
MFMA Transpose Load	Not available	DS_READ_B64_TR_B16/B8/B4, DS_READ_B96_TR_B6

Impact on Bank Conflict Analysis

Because gfx950 has 64 banks instead of 32, the bank conflict patterns change:

• Stride that causes conflicts: multiples of 64 banks (256 bytes) instead of 32 banks (128 bytes)
• A stride of 128 bytes that caused full conflict on gfx942 (all threads hit same bank) will only cause partial conflict on gfx950 (threads alternate between 2 banks)
• To cause full 64-way conflict on gfx950, the stride must be a multiple of 64 * 4 = 256 bytes
• XOR swizzle masks may need adjustment — masks designed for 32-bank gfx942 may be suboptimal on 64-bank gfx950

MFMA Transpose Load from LDS (gfx950 only)

CDNA4 introduces dedicated instructions for transposing data while loading from LDS to VGPRs, eliminating the need for explicit transpose via ds_write + ds_read with permuted addresses:

Instruction	Element Size	VGPRs Written	Description
DS_READ_B64_TR_B16	16-bit (fp16/bf16)	2 VGPRs	Load column-major A or row-major B matrix; two instructions load a complete matrix. Each lane holds 4 consecutive M or N values.
DS_READ_B64_TR_B8	8-bit (fp8/bf8)	2 VGPRs	Same as B16 but for 8-bit elements. First loads K=0..7,16..23,32..39,48..55; second loads remaining K values.
DS_READ_B64_TR_B4	4-bit (int4)	2 VGPRs	Same pattern for 4-bit elements. First loads K=0..15,32..47; second loads remaining K values.
DS_READ_B96_TR_B6	6-bit	3 VGPRs	6-bit element transpose load into 3 VGPRs. Does NOT require even-VGPR alignment.

Requirements:

• EXEC mask must be set to all 1's before executing
• LDS address must be aligned to the data size
• DS ops reading/writing 64-bit or larger data must use even-aligned VGPRs (except DS_READ_B96_TR_B6)

These instructions are useful for MFMA operand preparation — loading A/B matrices from LDS in the transposed layout needed by MFMA instructions without explicit LDS-based transpose.

LDS Instruction Model

LDS operations (ds_read_*, ds_write_*, ds_bpermute_*, ds_swizzle_*) are asynchronous:

ds_write_b32 v_addr, v_data    ; issues async write, returns immediately
; ... other instructions ...    ; LDS write completes in background
s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)            ; stall until all LDS/SMEM ops complete
ds_read_b32 v_result, v_addr   ; now safe to read

Key rules:

1. Write-before-read requires sync: any ds_read that depends on a prior ds_write must have s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) or s_barrier in between
2. s_barrier implies cross-wave sync: if wave A writes and wave B reads, s_barrier is required (not just lgkmcnt)
3. Longer write-read distance = better latency hiding: more instructions between ds_write and the subsequent s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) allow the write to complete in the background

Diagnosing LDS Bottlenecks from Trace

Step 1: Identify LDS-heavy regions

import json

with open('ui_output_agent_XXX_dispatch_YYY/code.json') as f:
    data = json.load(f)
instructions = data['code']
# Columns: [ISA, _, LineNum, Source, Codeobj, Vaddr, Hit, Latency, Stall, Idle]

# Find all LDS-related instructions
lds_insts = [i for i in instructions if i[0].startswith('ds_') or
             ('lgkmcnt' in i[0] and i[8] > 0)]

total_lds_stall = sum(i[8] for i in lds_insts)
total_stall = sum(i[8] for i in instructions)
print(f"LDS stall: {total_lds_stall} / {total_stall} = {100*total_lds_stall/total_stall:.1f}%")

# Show hottest LDS instructions
for i in sorted(lds_insts, key=lambda x: x[8], reverse=True)[:15]:
    print(f"  L{i[2]:>4d}  stall={i[8]:>6d}  idle={i[9]:>6d}  {i[0][:55]}  | :{i[3].split(':')[-1]}")

Step 2: Classify the bottleneck type

Type A: Bank Conflicts (high stall on ds_read/ds_write themselves)

L 766  stall=  160  ds_read2_b64 v[44:47], v28 offset1:8        ; <-- bank conflict
L 767  stall=  320  ds_read2_b64 v[36:39], v28 offset0:16 offset1:24  ; <-- bank conflict

Signs:

• ds_read_* / ds_write_* instructions with stall > 100 cycles per hit
• Multiple reads/writes with similar base address but different offsets that map to same banks
• ds_read2_b64 / ds_write2_b32 with offsets that are multiples of the bank count:
  • gfx942: multiples of 32 (= same bank, 32-bank LDS)
  • gfx950: multiples of 64 (= same bank, 64-bank LDS)

Type B: Write-Read Latency Exposed (high stall on s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) after ds_write)

L 761  stall=  960  ds_write2_b32 v28, v41, v43 offset0:32 offset1:48
L 764  stall= 4560  s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)    ; <-- write latency fully exposed
L 765  stall= 1468  s_barrier
L 766  stall=  160  ds_read2_b64 v[44:47], v28 offset1:8

Signs:

• s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) with > 2000 stall cycles immediately after ds_write
• Very few instructions between ds_write and s_waitcnt
• This means the write hasn't completed by the time we need to wait

Type C: Cross-Wave Reduce Serialization (high stall on s_barrier in reduce chains)

L 605  stall= 4080  s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)     ; wait for ds_bpermute
L 606  stall=17024  s_barrier                 ; cross-wave sync
L 607  stall=27220  s_waitcnt vmcnt(0)        ; also waiting for global loads

Signs:

• ds_bpermute -> lgkmcnt(0) -> s_barrier -> ds_write LDS -> lgkmcnt(0) -> s_barrier -> ds_read LDS pattern
• Multiple barriers (> 4) in a reduce region

Optimization Method 1: Swizzle Layout

The Problem

When multiple threads access LDS with a stride that is a multiple of the bank count, every access hits the same bank:

• gfx942 (32 banks): stride multiple of 128 bytes causes full conflict
• gfx950 (64 banks): stride multiple of 256 bytes causes full conflict; stride of 128 bytes causes 2-way conflict (threads alternate between 2 banks)

# gfx942 (32 banks): stride=128 -> full conflict
Thread 0: addr = base + 0*128  -> bank (0*128/4)%32 = 0
Thread 1: addr = base + 1*128  -> bank (1*128/4)%32 = 0  <- CONFLICT
Thread 2: addr = base + 2*128  -> bank (2*128/4)%32 = 0  <- CONFLICT

# gfx950 (64 banks): stride=128 -> only 2-way conflict (NOT full conflict)
Thread 0: addr = base + 0*128  -> bank (0*128/4)%64 = 0
Thread 1: addr = base + 1*128  -> bank (1*128/4)%64 = 32  <- different bank!
Thread 2: addr = base + 2*128  -> bank (2*128/4)%64 = 0   <- conflict with thread 0

# gfx950 (64 banks): stride=256 -> full conflict
Thread 0: addr = base + 0*256  -> bank (0*256/4)%64 = 0
Thread 1: addr = base + 1*256  -> bank (1*256/4)%64 = 0  <- CONFLICT
...

The Solution: XOR-Based Swizzle

Swizzle XORs bits of the row index into the column index of the LDS address, distributing accesses across different banks:

swizzled_col = original_col XOR (row >> shift)

This ensures threads accessing the same column in different rows hit different banks.

FlyDSL XOR Swizzle with SmemAllocator

In FlyDSL, LDS is managed through SmemAllocator. To apply swizzle, XOR the row index into the LDS address when computing store/load offsets:

from flydsl.utils.smem_allocator import SmemAllocator

allocator = SmemAllocator(None, arch="gfx942", global_sym_name="smem0")
lds_key = allocator.allocate_array(T.f16, KV_BLOCK_SIZE * HEAD_SIZE)

@flyc.kernel
def my_kernel(...):
    lds_base = allocator.get_base()
    lds_key_ptr = lds_key(lds_base)

    # XOR-swizzle address: distribute bank accesses
    # row_idx and col_idx are the logical 2D coordinates
    # XOR_BITS controls swizzle width (typically 4 for fp16 vec=8)
    swizzled_col = col_idx ^ (row_idx & XOR_MASK)
    lds_offset = row_idx * PADDED_STRIDE + swizzled_col
    lds_key_ptr.store(data, [lds_offset])

Choosing Swizzle Parameters

The goal is to make vectorized access span enough banks:

Data Type	Element Size	Recommended Vec Width	Banks Covered per Vec
fp32	4 bytes	4	4 banks (16 bytes)
fp16/bf16	2 bytes	8	4 banks (16 bytes)
fp8	1 byte	16	4 banks (16 bytes)

For XOR mask:

• gfx942 (32 banks): use 32 / (vec * element_size / 4) - 1 to ensure full bank coverage
• gfx950 (64 banks): use 64 / (vec * element_size / 4) - 1 — the doubled bank count means wider XOR masks may be needed to fully distribute accesses

Example: Fix Bank Conflicts in KV Cache Load to LDS

Before (conflict-prone, linear layout):

# Linear shared memory layout — threads in same warp hit same banks
lds_key = allocator.allocate_array(T.f16, KV_BLOCK_SIZE * HEAD_SIZE)
# Store key tile: all threads write to column 0,1,2... -> bank conflicts
lds_offset = row * HEAD_SIZE + col
lds_key_ptr.store(data, [lds_offset])

After (swizzled, conflict-free):

# XOR-swizzle distributes accesses across banks
XOR_BITS = 4  # for fp16 vec=8: covers 4 banks per vec
lds_key = allocator.allocate_array(T.f16, KV_BLOCK_SIZE * HEAD_SIZE)
swizzled_col = col ^ ((row & 0x7) << XOR_BITS)
lds_offset = row * HEAD_SIZE + swizzled_col
lds_key_ptr.store(data, [lds_offset])  # now conflict-free

Optimization Method 2: Padding

The Problem

Same as swizzle — stride-aligned accesses cause bank conflicts. Padding adds extra unused elements to change the effective stride.

The Solution

Add 1 element of padding per row to break the alignment:

# gfx942 (32 banks):
# Without padding: row stride = HEAD_SIZE (e.g., 128)
# Bank stride = 128 * 2 / 4 = 64 -> 64 % 32 = 0 -> ALL rows hit same bank column
# With padding: row stride = HEAD_SIZE + 1 (e.g., 129)
# Bank stride = 129 * 2 / 4 = 64.5 -> fractional -> conflicts eliminated

# gfx950 (64 banks):
# Without padding: row stride = HEAD_SIZE (e.g., 128)
# Bank stride = 128 * 2 / 4 = 64 -> 64 % 64 = 0 -> ALL rows hit same bank column (still conflicts!)
# With padding: row stride = HEAD_SIZE + 1 (e.g., 129)
# Bank stride = 129 * 2 / 4 = 64.5 -> fractional -> conflicts eliminated

FlyDSL Padding Implementation

PADDING = 1  # or a small number
PADDED_HEAD_SIZE = HEAD_SIZE + PADDING

# Allocate with extra column for padding
lds_key = allocator.allocate_array(T.f16, KV_BLOCK_SIZE * PADDED_HEAD_SIZE)

@flyc.kernel
def my_kernel(...):
    lds_base = allocator.get_base()
    lds_key_ptr = lds_key(lds_base)

    # Write key data using padded stride (ignore padding column)
    lds_offset = row * PADDED_HEAD_SIZE + col
    lds_key_ptr.store(data, [lds_offset])

    # Read back using same padded stride
    data = lds_key_ptr.load([row * PADDED_HEAD_SIZE + col])

Padding Amount

The minimum padding to eliminate all bank conflicts:

# gfx942 (32 banks):
padding_elements = 32 / (element_size_bytes)  # worst case

# gfx950 (64 banks):
padding_elements = 64 / (element_size_bytes)  # worst case

But usually 1-4 elements suffice. The cost is extra LDS usage:

• 1 element padding per row: KV_BLOCK_SIZE * element_size extra bytes
• Must ensure total LDS usage stays within 64 KB per CU (gfx942) or 160 KB per CU (gfx950)

Swizzle vs Padding Trade-offs

Aspect	Swizzle	Padding
LDS overhead	None (zero extra bytes)	Extra bytes per row
Complexity	Need correct XOR mask params (arch-dependent)	Simple: just add 1 to stride
Address computation	XOR adds ~1 SALU instruction	Simple offset, no extra compute
Risk	Wrong params = silent bank conflicts	Exceeding LDS limit = kernel fail
LDS limit	N/A	gfx942: 64 KB, gfx950: 160 KB
Preferred when	LDS near capacity, need zero overhead	Simple cases, LDS has headroom

Recommendation: Prefer swizzle (zero overhead). Use padding only when swizzle layout is hard to integrate with the kernel's access pattern. On gfx950, the 160 KB LDS gives much more headroom for padding.

Optimization Method 3: Increase Write-Read Distance

The Problem

When ds_write is immediately followed by s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) and then ds_read, the ~20-40 cycle LDS write latency is fully exposed as stall:

ds_write_b32 ...          ; async write issued
s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)      ; STALL: write hasn't completed yet (3000+ cycles)
ds_read_b32 ...           ; read must wait for write

The Solution

Insert useful compute work between the write and the wait:

ds_write_b32 ...          ; async write issued
; --- insert independent compute here ---
v_mfma_f32_16x16x32 ...  ; MFMA takes ~64 cycles, overlaps with LDS write
v_add_f32 ...             ; more independent ALU work
v_mul_f32 ...
; --- write has completed by now ---
s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0)      ; no stall (or minimal stall)
ds_read_b32 ...           ; data ready immediately

FlyDSL-Level Implementation

At the Python/FlyDSL level, you control write-read distance by reordering operations:

# BEFORE: write and read are close together
lds_ptr.store(data, [offset])               # ds_write
gpu.barrier()                                # s_barrier (includes lgkmcnt wait)
result = lds_ptr.load([offset])             # ds_read

# AFTER: insert independent work between write and barrier
lds_ptr.store(data, [offset])               # ds_write (async)

# Do independent compute that doesn't need the LDS data
next_offsets = compute_next_offsets()        # SALU/VALU work
next_data = buffer_ops.buffer_load(rsrc, next_offsets, vec_width=4)  # global load (also async)
scale_factor = buffer_ops.buffer_load(rsrc_scale, scale_off, vec_width=1)

gpu.barrier()                                # by now, LDS write has completed
result = lds_ptr.load([offset])             # ds_read (no stall)

What to Insert Between Write and Read

Prioritize by latency-hiding value:

1. Global loads for next phase (buffer_ops.buffer_load) — these are also async, ~300+ cycle latency
2. Address computation (compute_offsets) — SALU/VALU, ~4-8 cycles each
3. Independent MFMA chains — if available, ~64 cycles per MFMA
4. Scalar loads (s_load_dword*) — kernel arguments, ~20 cycles

Avoid inserting:

• Operations that depend on the LDS write result (data dependency)
• More LDS operations (would compete for LDS bandwidth)
• Operations that increase register pressure beyond budget

Verification Checklist

After applying LDS optimizations:

1. Correctness: Run tests. Swizzle changes must be applied consistently to both write and read paths — if the write uses swizzled addresses, the read must use the same swizzle.

2. Re-profile: Run /kernel-trace-analysis and check:

   • ds_read_* / ds_write_* stall should decrease
   • s_waitcnt lgkmcnt(0) stall after ds_write should decrease
   • No new bank conflicts introduced

3. LDS usage: Check total LDS consumption:

   # Estimate: sum of all allocator.allocate_array() sizes * element_size
   # gfx942: Must be <= 65536 bytes (64 KB) per workgroup
   # gfx950: Must be <= 163840 bytes (160 KB) per workgroup
   # Note: gfx950 allocates LDS in 1280-byte granularity (1280-byte aligned blocks)
   

4. Register pressure: Swizzle adds ~1-2 SALU instructions for address XOR. Padding doesn't add register pressure but uses more LDS. Neither should significantly impact VGPR count.

Quick Reference: Common LDS Patterns in Paged Attention

Pattern	Location	Typical Issue	Fix
K/V cache tile in LDS	QK/PV MFMA loop	Bank conflicts from stride=HEAD_SIZE	Swizzle with XOR on row index
Softmax reduce via LDS	ds_write -> barrier -> ds_read	Write-read latency exposed + too many barriers	Increase write-read distance; replace with ds_bpermute chain
Cross-wave max/sum broadcast	ds_write -> barrier -> ds_read from different wave	Cross-wave sync overhead	Merge max+sum into single reduce pass
MFMA accumulator shuffle	ds_write accum -> barrier -> ds_read permuted	Bank conflicts if accumulator layout misaligns	Swizzle or use ds_bpermute for permutation

Output

After optimization, report:

• Which LDS bottleneck type was identified (bank conflict / write-read latency / reduce serialization)
• Which optimization was applied (swizzle / padding / distance increase)
• Before/after lgkmcnt stall cycles and ds_* instruction stalls
• LDS usage before/after (bytes)
• Any impact on VGPR count or occupancy